May 25, 2009, 03:24 AM // 03:24
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: N/A
Profession: D/W
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E/Me Distortionists (in PvP)
When will they be addressed and how much longer must we the PvP Community endure them? Very brief question about a very overpowered template in PvP:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/Me...Distortion_Ele
It's dominating GvG, HA, TA, RA (dunno about HB or AB). It's ridiculously OP'd and needs to be toned down immediately to prevent continued abuse. It's already been mentioned in wiki's across the board that there's been E/M x5 in GvG (8v8) and x3 in TA (4v4). 5/8 in GvG and 3/4 in TA is outrageous and spells out overpoweredness clearly. The Live Team seriously needs to assess this template and issue an immediate update to stop this continued abuse.
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May 25, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26
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#2
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Maybe in the next skill update.
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May 25, 2009, 03:33 AM // 03:33
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Wales
Guild: Order of the Azurelight[OA]
Profession: E/
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aye probably in the next update, and they'l not just balance it, but completely nerf it. Probably something like increase energy loss to 5, and increase recharge to 15.
Last edited by lewis91; May 25, 2009 at 03:47 AM // 03:47..
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May 25, 2009, 03:37 AM // 03:37
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Mind Blast now costs 10 energy.
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May 25, 2009, 03:43 AM // 03:43
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2009
Guild: Morexian Knights [MK]
Profession: A/
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Move Distortion to Fast Casting, problem solved
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May 25, 2009, 03:47 AM // 03:47
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#6
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GinsuNinjutsu
Move Distortion to Fast Casting, problem solved
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That would fit into one of the worst ways to balance a skill category
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May 25, 2009, 03:56 AM // 03:56
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#7
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Zul'Aman
Guild: Umes Uranger U[bot]
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Well it's distortion that's the main problem isn't it? So imo nerf Distortion and don't go overboard by nerfing MB as well...
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May 25, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Boston
Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS]
Profession: A/W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Regulus X
It's dominating GvG, HA, TA, RA (dunno about HB or AB).
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Wiki has it labeled for HB, but that's not true. No one good would use it in HB because there's [[Rigor Mortis]. Also, build doesn't have any utility needed in HB to win.
I would imagine it would work for AB.
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May 25, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32
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#9
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: [PIG]
Profession: W/A
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seen a few of those in ab, and yeah its annoying. Wild blow helps, but who packs that everytime?
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May 25, 2009, 04:34 AM // 04:34
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#10
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: May 2009
Profession: Me/
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I think nerf it, i never see anyone else using Distortion besides the tards running around in GvG spaming Mind Blast.
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May 25, 2009, 04:36 AM // 04:36
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: R/
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Any decent mesmer should rip that build apart...
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May 25, 2009, 04:36 AM // 04:36
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#12
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Monkeyball Z
Guild: S.K.A.T. [Ban]
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
Well it's distortion that's the main problem isn't it? So imo nerf Distortion and don't go overboard by nerfing MB as well...
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Mind Blast is the cause.. the build does even better with the e/d featherfoot/dwayna's touch variant.
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May 25, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40
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#13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]
Profession: W/E
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Remove the 2 energy lost, change to for every attack blocked while in this stance, distortion takes an extra 2 seconds to recharge.
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May 25, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40
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#14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Wrocław, Poland
Guild: Midnight Mayhem
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow
Well it's distortion that's the main problem isn't it? So imo nerf Distortion and don't go overboard by nerfing MB as well...
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sure, nerf mesmers because eles abuse their skills.
eles make the problem, eles suffer from the problem solved - that's the way. i know mesmers that use distortion from time to time for a whole variance of reasons, main of them being fun.
Last edited by drkn; May 25, 2009 at 04:48 AM // 04:48..
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May 25, 2009, 05:04 AM // 05:04
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#15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canada
Profession: E/
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[Mind Blast] Gogo, increase the recharge to 3 or even 4 seconds again :P
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May 25, 2009, 05:16 AM // 05:16
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#16
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Amazon Basin [AB]
Profession: Mo/Me
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Mind blast was intentionally pushed and pushed, after being un-nerfed and then immo buffed... I'm not really sure what to think or expect about balance anymore. I mean look at strength of honor, it was unused from the beginning for a while, then it gets a damage buff, much later a recharge nerf, and in the end finally gets ether renewaled. Why do they even try pushing these skills to viability and then completely demolish them?
Still, split isn't winning any mATs, so nothing is going to be done about mind blast.
P.S. the 5x mind blast builds are fun and work, but this shouldn't be confused with "good" let alone dominating.
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May 25, 2009, 05:21 AM // 05:21
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#17
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: N/A
Profession: D/W
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The problem I see mainly is Distortion being ran with any form of energy management. It easily becomes like the ranger's Elite stance 'Escape'. I think Distortion needs to be tapped by the nerf bat (just not 25/90 assasination-mode).
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May 25, 2009, 05:24 AM // 05:24
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#18
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CAli
Profession: R/Mo
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It's not even good? Why do any of you guys care? Wts defile defense?
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May 25, 2009, 05:25 AM // 05:25
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#19
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Black Crescent [BC]
Profession: A/Mo
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As far as GvG goes, while it is a powerful template, I don't see it as being overpowered. The most common variant that I've seen, yumy split, with 2 Mindblast eles for splitting does make for a fairly good split build. Well run it can be tough to deal with. But you don't need to bring specific counters to it, and it isn't so powerful that it's the only viable build. It can be beaten through tactical smart play. Furthermore, bad teams trying to run it don't miraculously do extremely well.
Playing against 5 E/Me's in GvG also isn't extraordinarily difficult. Swap to fire shields and don't ball up and you mitigate a great deal of the pressure that they can do.
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May 25, 2009, 05:27 AM // 05:27
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#20
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CAli
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R Langdon
seen a few of those in ab, and yeah its annoying. Wild blow helps, but who packs that everytime?
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